000 WTPZ43 KNHC 020231 TCDEP3 TROPICAL STORM OLAF DISCUSSION NUMBER 3 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP182009 800 PM PDT THU OCT 01 2009 THE OVERALL CLOUD PATTERN OF OLAF HAS BECOME A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED AND MORE SYMMETRIC WITH WELL ESTABLISHED OUTFLOW IN ALL QUADRANTS. THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER IS BETTER DEFINED IN THE LARGE CIRCULATION AND PROBABLY HAS REFORMED A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTHEAST OF PREVIOUSLY INDICATED. THE CENTER IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST EDGE OF A LARGE AREA OF DEVELOPING CONVECTION. T-NUMBERS ARE 2.5 FROM BOTH TAFB AND SAB...SUPPORTING AN INITIAL INTENSITY OF 35 KNOTS. OLAF HAS SMALL WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY...12 TO 24 HOURS...TO STRENGTHEN SOME BEFORE THE SHEAR INCREASES AND IT MOVES OVER COOLER WATERS. THEREAFTER...OLAF SHOULD WEAKEN AND BECOME A REMNANT LOW BY 48 TO 72 HOURS. NONE OF THE INTENSITY GUIDANCE INTENSIFY OLAF ABOVE 45 KNOTS. GIVEN THE REFORMATION OF THE CENTER...THE INITIAL MOTION IS UNCERTAIN...BUT THE BEST ESTIMATE IS 315 DEGREES AT 6 KNOTS. OLAF IS ALREADY LOCATED ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AND SOON WILL BE EMBEDDED WITHIN THE MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES. THEREFORE...A GRADUAL TURN TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST IS INDICATED. THIS OFFICIAL FORECAST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TRACK GUIDANCE WHICH TURNS OLAF TOWARD THE NORTHEAST IN A DAY OR SO. ONLY THE UK MODEL MOVES THE CYCLONE SLOWLY TOWARD THE WEST AND THIS SOLUTION IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION IF OLAF BECOMES A SHALLOW REMNANT LOW SOONER THAN EXPECTED...AND IS STEERED BY THE LOW LEVEL FLOW. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 02/0300Z 20.7N 117.8W 35 KT 12HR VT 02/1200Z 21.2N 118.2W 40 KT 24HR VT 03/0000Z 22.0N 118.7W 35 KT 36HR VT 03/1200Z 22.5N 119.0W 30 KT 48HR VT 04/0000Z 23.5N 118.5W 25 KT...REMNANT LOW 72HR VT 05/0000Z 25.0N 116.5W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW 96HR VT 06/0000Z...DISSIPATED $$ FORECASTER AVILA