000 WTPZ43 KNHC 230852 TCDEP3 TROPICAL STORM GENEVIEVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 8 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP082008 200 AM PDT WED JUL 23 2008 LATEST INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS A LARGE SHAPELESS MASS OF VERY COLD CLOUD TOPS NEAR THE CENTER OF CIRCULATION. SUCH A PATTERN NORMALLY SIGNALS AN INTERRUPTION IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A TROPICAL CYCLONE. ACCORDINGLY...THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 55 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY. THE INTENSITY FORECAST PHILOSOPHY REMAINS CHALLENGING. VERTICAL SHEAR IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN BUT GENEVIEVE IS CURRENTLY MOVING OVER A SMALL AREA OF RELATIVELY COOLER SSTS LEFT IN THE WAKE OF FAUSTO. THESE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS SHOULD OFFSET EACH OTHER RESULTING IN SLOW OR POSSIBLY NO DEVELOPMENT DURING THE FIRST 12-24 HOURS. THEREAFTER...THE CYCLONE WILL MOVE BACK OVER WARMER WATERS ALLOWING ABOUT A TWO-DAY WINDOW FOR STRENGTHENING PRIOR TO THE ONSET OF HIGHER VERTICAL SHEAR IN ABOUT 3 DAYS. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS ESSENTIALLY AN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS ONE AND IS IN CLOSEST AGREEMENT WITH THE LGEM STATISTICAL MODEL. A RECENT AMSU PASS SUGGESTED THAT THE LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION WAS A LITTLE NORTH OF THE PREVIOUS TRACK. HOWEVER...I AM RELUCTANT TO COMPLETELY RELOCATE THE CENTER AT NIGHT AND HAVE OPTED TO SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXTRAPOLATED CENTER POSITION AND THE AMSU CENTER ESTIMATE. THE INITIAL MOTION IS NOW ESTIMATED TO BE 280/08. TRACK MODELS CONTINUE TO PROVIDE VASTLY DIFFERENT FORECASTS RANGING FROM A NORTHWESTWARD MOTION TO A SOUTHWESTWARD MOTION. THOSE MODELS WHICH SHOW A SOUTHWESTWARD MOTION ALSO FORECAST A SHALLOW SYSTEM. SINCE THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT GENEVIEVE WILL SUDDENLY WEAKEN...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST LEANS MORE TOWARDS THE REMAINING MODELS AND INDICATES A WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION. THIS RESULTS IN A NORTHWARD SHIFT OF THE TRACK...BUT THE OFFICIAL FORECAST STILL LIES SOUTH OF THE DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS AT DAYS 3-5. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 23/0900Z 14.7N 108.7W 55 KT 12HR VT 23/1800Z 14.8N 109.9W 60 KT 24HR VT 24/0600Z 14.9N 111.4W 60 KT 36HR VT 24/1800Z 15.0N 112.9W 65 KT 48HR VT 25/0600Z 15.1N 114.6W 65 KT 72HR VT 26/0600Z 15.5N 117.5W 60 KT 96HR VT 27/0600Z 16.0N 121.0W 50 KT 120HR VT 28/0600Z 16.5N 124.5W 45 KT $$ FORECASTER RHOME