000 WTPZ42 KNHC 260238 TCDEP2 TROPICAL STORM OTTO DISCUSSION NUMBER 21 NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP222016 900 PM CST FRI NOV 25 2016 Otto is showing the effects of 20-25 kt of easterly vertical wind shear, as the center is located near the eastern edge of the main convective area. Satellite intensity estimates from TAFB and SAB remain 55 kt, and there is a recent estimate of 47 kt from the CIMSS satellite consensus technique. Based on these data, the initial intensity remains 50 kt. There are a lot of negative environmental factors in the intensity forecast. In the first 12-24 hours, these include moderate to strong shear and abundant dry air seen in water vapor imagery near Otto. At 24-36 hours, the cyclone is likely to move across an area of cooler sea surface temperatures. Finally, from 72-120 hours Otto or its remnants should encounter more dry air and upper-level convergent flow. Given these factors, it is not a surprise that the global models forecast Otto to meet a quick demise. On the other hand, the SHIPS and LGEM models forecast a slower decay and suggest Otto could still be a tropical cyclone at 120 hours. The new intensity forecast will lean a little more toward the global models and show lower intensities than the previous forecast, with the cyclone forecast to weaken to a depression at 96 hours and to a remnant low at 120 hours. However, if the global models are right both of these events could occur earlier. The initial motion is 255/14. The cyclone continues to be south of a strong deep-layer ridge over Mexico, and this steering pattern will force Otto to move on a general west-southwestward to westward track for the next 2-3 days. After that time, Otto or its remnants will be located near the southwestern edge of the ridge, which should result in a turn toward the northwest and a decrease in forward speed. The track guidance remains in good agreement with this scenario, although there is some divergence in how sharply the system will turn northward at 120 hours. The new forecast track is similar to the previous track through 96 hours, then it lies between the previous track to the west and the consensus models to the east at 120 hours. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 26/0300Z 9.7N 90.7W 50 KT 60 MPH 12H 26/1200Z 9.2N 92.7W 45 KT 50 MPH 24H 27/0000Z 8.9N 95.7W 40 KT 45 MPH 36H 27/1200Z 8.8N 98.8W 40 KT 45 MPH 48H 28/0000Z 8.8N 101.7W 35 KT 40 MPH 72H 29/0000Z 10.0N 106.0W 35 KT 40 MPH 96H 30/0000Z 11.5N 107.5W 30 KT 35 MPH 120H 01/0000Z 13.0N 108.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW $$ Forecaster Beven