000 WTPZ42 KNHC 030246 TCDEP2 TROPICAL STORM BORIS DISCUSSION NUMBER 25 NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP022008 800 PM PDT WED JUL 02 2008 BORIS IS STUBBORNLY CONTINUING TO DISPLAY RELATIVELY SYMMETRIC DEEP CONVECTION DESPITE MOVING OVER COOL WATERS THIS EVENING. DVORAK T-NUMBER ESTIMATES WERE 4.0 AND 3.5 FROM TAFB AND SAB... RESPECTIVELY. HOWEVER...THE CIMSS AMSU TECHNIQUE SUGGESTED ONLY 52 KT FROM A 2229Z AMSU PASS. THIS LOWER VALUE IS CONSISTENT WITH AN EARLIER QUIKSCAT PASS SHOWING ABOUT 50 KT MAXIMUM WINDS. THE INTENSITY ANALYSIS REMAINS AT 50 KT. A 1738Z ASCAT PASS...THOUGH IT MISSED BORIS' CENTER...DID CONFIRM THAT THE 34 KT WIND RADII HAS NOT CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY. BORIS' TRACK CONTINUES OFF TO THE NORTHWEST AT ABOUT 7-8 KT. ALL OF THE GUIDANCE SUGGESTS AN IMMEDIATE TURN TOWARD THE WEST...BUT THE MODELS HAVE BEEN TOO QUICK IN MAKING THIS TURN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF RUNS. THE CONTINUED NORTHWEST MOVEMENT TODAY LIKELY IS THE RESULT OF THE COMBINATION OF A STILL DEEP TROPICAL CYCLONE ALONG WITH THE RATHER VIGOROUS MID-UPPER LEVEL TROUGH NORTHWEST OF BORIS. BUT IF THE STORM IS INDEED ABOUT TO LOSE ITS DEEP CONVECTION...AND IT IS ANTICIPATED HERE THAT IT WILL...THEN THE TURN TO THE WEST AND THEN WEST-SOUTHWEST SHOULD MATERIALIZE. THE TRACK FORECAST IS WEIGHTED MORE TOWARD PERSISTENCE AT 12 HR AND THEN PRIMARILY UPON GFS...NOGAPS...UKMET...AND HWRF AT LONGER TIME PERIODS. THIS TRACK IS SLIGHTLY NORTH OF THE PREVIOUS FORECAST THROUGH 72 HR. BORIS WILL BE MOVING OVER SSTS OF 23C SHORTLY...AS INDICATED BY THE EXTENSIVE STRATOCUMULUS FIELD JUST TO ITS NORTHWEST. IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT TONIGHT'S CONVECTIVE REINVIGORATION OF BORIS IS ITS LAST GASP BEFORE SUCCUMBING TO THE NEGATIVE THERMODYNAMICS. THE INTENSITY FORECAST...QUITE SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS PREDICTION...IS BASED UPON THE CONSENSUS OF SHIPS...LGEM...AND GFDL MODELS. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 03/0300Z 17.7N 128.3W 50 KT 12HR VT 03/1200Z 18.0N 129.1W 45 KT 24HR VT 04/0000Z 18.2N 130.1W 35 KT 36HR VT 04/1200Z 18.2N 130.9W 25 KT 48HR VT 05/0000Z 17.9N 132.2W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW 72HR VT 06/0000Z 17.0N 135.5W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW 96HR VT 07/0000Z 15.5N 139.0W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW 120HR VT 08/0000Z 15.0N 142.5W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW $$ FORECASTER LANDSEA/BEVEN