000 WTNT44 KNHC 200251 TCDAT4 TROPICAL STORM NADINE DISCUSSION NUMBER 35 NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142012 1100 PM AST WED SEP 19 2012 NADINE CONTINUES TO BE A RESILIENT TROPICAL CYCLONE...AS AN AREA OF CONVECTION HAS RECENTLY DEVELOPED JUST TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE CENTER. A RECENT ASCAT PASS INDICATED MAXIMUM WINDS OF AROUND 45 KT...SO THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS AT THE VALUE. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE NOT FORECAST TO CHANGE VERY MUCH DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...WITH NADINE STAYING OVER MARGINAL SSTS AND IN MODERATE SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST CALLS FOR LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD...AS THE SUGGESTED BY GLOBAL MODELS. WITH THE RECENT INCREASE IN CONVECTION...IT IS UNCLEAR WHETHER NADINE WILL LOSE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS AS QUICKLY AS INDICATED IN THE OFFICIAL FORECAST. THE TRANSFORMATION TO A POST-TROPICAL CYCLONE IS SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFICULT TO PREDICT...AND THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE AS TO WHEN THIS WILL OCCUR. AFTER MEANDERING DURING MOST OF TODAY...SATELLITE IMAGES SUGGEST THAT NADINE IS STARTING TO TURN EASTWARD. HOWEVER...USING A LONGER 12-HOUR MOTION YIELDS AN INITIAL MOVEMENT OF EAST-NORTHEASTWARD AT ABOUT 3 KT. THE TRACK GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT IN TAKING NADINE SOUTHEASTWARD DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...IN STRENGTHENING LOW- TO MID-LEVEL FLOW BETWEEN A DEEPING TROUGH TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE CYCLONE AND A STRONG DEEP-LAYER RIDGE OVER THE NORTH-CENTRAL ATLANTIC. AFTER THAT TIME...THE GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SHOW TWO POSSIBLE SCENARIOS. ONE SOLUTION...IS FOR NADINE TO BE PULLED EASTWARD BY THE TROUGH...WHILE THE SECOND SCENARIO IS FOR THE CYCLONE TO TURN SOUTHWESTWARD AROUND THE SOUTHEASTERN SIDE OF THE CENTRAL-ATLANTIC RIDGE. THE NHC TRACK FORECAST CONTINUES TO REMAIN BETWEEN THESE PLAUSIBLE SCENARIOS...BUT THE NEW TRACK HAS BEEN ADJUSTED SIGNIFICANTLY SOUTH OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. THIS IS THE RESULT OF A FASTER SOUTHEASTWARD MOTION PREDICTED BY THE GUIDANCE DURING THE FIRST 48 HOURS. AT DAY 3 AND BEYOND...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST SHOWS LITTLE OVERALL MOTION FOR NOW. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 20/0300Z 37.1N 31.4W 45 KT 50 MPH 12H 20/1200Z 36.6N 30.3W 45 KT 50 MPH 24H 21/0000Z 35.5N 28.9W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROPICAL 36H 21/1200Z 34.2N 27.5W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROPICAL 48H 22/0000Z 32.8N 26.6W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROPICAL 72H 23/0000Z 32.0N 26.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROPICAL 96H 24/0000Z 31.5N 25.5W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROPICAL 120H 25/0000Z 31.0N 25.0W 50 KT 60 MPH...POST-TROPICAL $$ FORECASTER BROWN