000 AGXX40 KNHC 130709 MIMATS MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 210 AM EST SUN NOV 13 2011 MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA AND TROPICAL N ATLC...AND SOUTHWEST NORTH ATLC S OF 31N W OF 55W. GULF OF MEXICO... THE 0258 UTC ASCAT PASS AND NUMEROUS OBSERVATIONS SHOW THAT SOUTHERLY RETURN FLOW HAS BECOME ESTABLISHED OVER THE NW GULF ON THE W SIDE OF THE HIGH. THERE CONTINUES TO BE UNCERTAINTY IN THE FORECAST STEMMING FROM THE CUT OFF LOW NEAR BAJA CALIFORNIA THAT IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO MEXICO TONIGHT AND EXPECTED TO PHASE WITH A NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH OVER THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TUE NIGHT. THE GFS HOLDS ONTO A STRONGER MID LEVEL CENTER THAN THE OTHER MODELS AND IS STRONGER WITH THE NORTHERN STREAM COLD FRONT EXPECTED TO SWEEP THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST WED AND INTO THE GULF AND SW N ATL BY THU. HOWEVER...IT IS IN BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE MODEL CONSENSUS THAN THE WEAK AND SLOW 00Z ECMWF WITH THE COLD FRONT. THE UKMET IS CLOSEST TO THE GFS WITH THE TIMING OF THE FEATURES...BUT NOT NEARLY AS STRONG WITH THE COLD FRONT. A BLEND OF THE GFS AND UKMET WILL BE USED FOR THE FORECAST. CARIBBEAN SEA AND TROPICAL N ATLC... THE 0114 UTC AND 0255 UTC ASCAT PASSES SHOWED WIDESPREAD WIDESPREAD FRESH NE FLOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE CARIBBEAN. HIGH PRES N OF THE AREA IS GENERATING A TIGHT PRES GRADIENT ACROSS THE CARIBBEAN...AND THESE TRADES WILL PREVAIL THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PERIOD. MEANWHILE...BUOY 41101 AND A FEW SHIP OBSERVATIONS HAVE CONFIRMED FRESH TRADES EXTEND INTO THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE TROPICAL N ATLC ZONE...WITH THE 0346 UTC JASON2 PASS SHOWING SEAS TO 8 FT HERE. THESE CONDITIONS MATCH BETTER WITH THE 00Z GFS THAN THE WEAKER 00Z ECMWF OR UKMET SOLUTIONS...LENDING SOME CONFIDENCE TO THE GFS FORECAST FOR THE NEXT DAY OR SO. A DEEP LAYER TROUGH WILL BUILD OVER THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS ZONE TUE THROUGH THU. THE 00Z ECMWF APPEARS TO BE A WESTERN OUTLIER HERE. WILL STICK WITH THE GFS FORECAST FOR NOW. SW N ATLC S OF 31N W OF 55W... A DISSIPATING STATIONARY FRONT CURRENTLY LIES FROM 25N65W TO EASTERN CUBA...AND A RIDGE AXIS LIES FROM JUST N OF BERMUDA TO N FL. THE RIDGE WILL REMAIN IN PLACE THROUGH TUE BEFORE THE NEXT FRONT APPROACHES FAR NW WATERS BY WED. THE FORECAST REASONING FOR THIS FRONT IS DESCRIBED IN THE GULF OF MEXICO SECTION ABOVE. A BLEND OF THE UKMET AND STRONGER GFS WILL BE USED FOR THE FORECAST FOR THIS FRONT...WITH THE FRONT REACHING LAKE OKEECHOBEE THU NIGHT. FRESH NE-E TRADE WINDS WILL BUILD OVER MUCH OF THE AREA S OF 26N MON INTO TUE S OF THE RIDGE AXIS AND DIMINISH WED AS HIGH PRES MOVES FARTHER NE OF THE AREA. WARNINGS... GULF OF MEXICO... .NONE. .CARIBBEAN SEA AND TROPICAL N ATLC... .NONE. .SW N ATLC... .NONE. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PLEASE VISIT HTTP://WWW.HURRICANES.GOV/MARINE $$ FORECASTER SCHAUER