000 AGXX40 KNHC 230616 MIMATS MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL 115 AM EST TUE NOV 23 2010 MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA AND TROPICAL N ATLC...AND SOUTHWEST NORTH ATLC S OF 31N W OF 55W. GULF OF MEXICO... THE 18Z GFS HELD MORE H5 ENERGY BACK OVER THE SW U.S. AND SOUTHERN PLAINS ON FRI AND SAT...MAKING IT LESS VIGOROUS WITH THE STRENGTH OF THE COLD FRONT MOVING THROUGH THE GULF THAN THE 12Z ECMWF AND UKMET. THE 18Z NOGAPS WAS EVEN MORE ADAMANT ABOUT HOLDING ENERGY BACK...CUTTING OFF A LOW OVER THE SW U.S. ON FRI AND WAITING UNTIL SAT TO SEND A MUCH WEAKER FRONT THROUGH THE GULF. THE NOGAPS APPEARED TO BE AN OUTLIER AND HPC THINKS THE GFS...WHICH HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN FASTER THAN THE ECMWF AND UKMET TO CARRY THE LEADING EDGE OF THE COLD FRONT EASTWARD WELL NORTH OF THE GULF...IS TOO FAST. THE 00Z GFS HAS TRENDED TOWARD THE MODEL CONSENSUS AND IS NOW STRONGER WITH THE WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT. HOWEVER...THE FORECAST WILL LEAN MORE HEAVILY ON THE ECMWF AND UKMET FORECASTS WHICH HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN STRONGER WITH THE WINDS BEHIND THE FRONT THAN THE GFS. GALE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FRIDAY BEHIND THE FRONT AND NEAR THE COAST OVER THE SW GULF BEHIND THE FRONT. CARIBBEAN SEA AND TROPICAL N ATLC... THE GRADIENT BETWEEN ATLC HIGH PRES AND LOWER PRES OVER S AMERICA WILL DOMINATE THE PATTERN THROUGH THE WEEK. WITH THE ATLC HIGH GRADUALLY WEAKENING...LOOK FOR THE EASTERLY TRADES TO VERY SLOWLY SLACKEN THROUGH THE WEEK. THE MODELS ARE IN REASONABLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THIS PATTERN. SW N ATLC... 20 TO 25 KT NE TO E WINDS CONTINUE TONIGHT S OF 27N ACCORDING TO NUMEROUS SHIP OBSERVATIONS. THESE WINDS WILL DIMINISH GRADUALLY THROUGH THE WEEK AS ATLC HIGH PRES ERODES. UNCERTAINTY COMES INTO THE FORECAST WED WITH THE TIMING AND LOCATION OF THE COLD FRONT ENTERING THE N PORTION OF THE ZONE AND QUICKLY MOVING SE OF THE AREA ON THU. THE 18Z GFS WAS FASTER TO BRING THE FRONT S AND DID SO FARTHER W THAN THE 12Z ECMWF. MORE OF THE EARLIER AND CURRENT MODELS FAVOR A STRONGER DEEP LAYER RIDGE FOR THIS TROUGH TO PASS OVER WHICH FORCES IT MORE THE THE E LIKE THE ECMWF. THE 00Z GFS HAS TRENDED TOWARD THIS SOLUTION BUT KEEPS WINDS TO 20 KT CLOSER TO THE COAST OF N FLORIDA WED NIGHT THAN THE ECMWF. THE MODEL CONSENSUS ALSO STRAYS FROM THE GFS WITH THE FRONT PASSING THROUGH THE GULF FRI AND MOVING THROUGH NW WATERS OVER THE SW N ATLC SAT. AS A RESULT OF THE DIFFERENCES DISCUSSED IN THE GULF OF MEXICO SECTION...THE GFS IS WEAKER WITH THE SURFACE WINDS OVER THE SW N ATLC BEHIND THE FRONT THAN THE FAVORED ECMWF AND UKMET AND THE GFS HANGS THE FRONT UP FARTHER NE THAN THE FAVORED SOLUTION SAT. WARNINGS... ATLC... .NONE. CARIBBEAN... .NONE. GULF OF MEXICO... .GMZ082...GALE CONDITIONS EXPECTED FRI S OF 25N W OF 95W... FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION PLEASE VISIT HTTP://WWW.HURRICANES.GOV/MARINE $$ FORECASTER SCHAUER