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TROPICAL DEPRESSION THIRTEEN-E DISCUSSION NUMBER   1
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
8 PM PDT MON OCT 01 2001
 
SATELLITE CLASSIFICATIONS WITH THE DISTURBANCE SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF 
ACAPULCO ARE 2.0 FROM SAB AND 1.5 FROM TAFB.  THERE WAS ENOUGH 
CURVATURE VISIBLE EAST OF THE DEEP CONVECTION IN LAST LIGHT IMAGERY 
TO SUGGEST THAT THE SYSTEM HAS DEVELOPED A CLOSED CIRCULATION AND IS 
NOW A DEPRESSION.  THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET TO 30 KT BASED ON 
THE SAB ESTIMATE.  THERE APPEARS TO BE EASTERLY SHEAR OVER THE 
SYSTEM CURRENTLY.

THE INITIAL MOTION IS 270/7.  WATER VAPOR IMAGERY...AND WINDS FROM 
THE UW/CIMSS WEB PAGE SHOW THAT THE DEPRESSION IS APPROACHING A 
MID-LEVEL TROUGH THAT EXTENDS SOUTHWARD FROM THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA. 
ALL THE TRACK GUIDANCE RESPONDS TO THIS PATTERN BY LIFTING THE 
CYCLONE NORTHWARD AT VARIOUS SPEEDS.  THE AVN IS THE MOST AGRESSIVE 
WITH THE RECURVATURE...TAKING THE SYSTEM VERY CLOSE TO THE COAST 
NEAR CABO CORRIENTES IN ABOUT 48 HOURS.  BOTH THE UKMET AND THE 
NOGAPS KEEP THE SYSTEM FURTHER OFFSHORE.  FOR THE AVN FORECAST TO 
VERIFY...THE SYSTEM WILL NEED TO SPEED UP IN A MANNER QUITE RARE IN 
THE EASTERN PACIFIC.  THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS CLOSE TO THE TRACK OF 
THE AVN BUT IS A LITTLE SLOWER.

THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS RATHER DEPENDENT ON THE FUTURE TRACK OF 
THE DEPRESSION.  IF THE SYSTEM FOLLOWS THE UKMET/NOGAPS TRACK...THE 
SYSTEM WILL PASS OVER THE COLD WATER UPWELLED BY JULIETTE.  ON THE 
AVN TRACK...THE CYCLONE WILL STAY OVER WARM WATER...BUT THIS 
SCENARIO MIGHT HAVE HIGHER SHEAR.  NEITHER SCENARIO LOOKS CONDUCIVE 
TO TREMENDOUS STRENGTHENING.  THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS BETWEEN THE 
GFDL AND SHIPS GUIDANCE.
 
FORECASTER FRANKLIN
 
 
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
 
INITIAL     02/0300Z 12.0N 102.3W    30 KTS
12HR VT     02/1200Z 12.1N 103.4W    35 KTS
24HR VT     03/0000Z 12.9N 105.0W    40 KTS
36HR VT     03/1200Z 15.0N 106.3W    45 KTS
48HR VT     04/0000Z 17.5N 106.5W    55 KTS
72HR VT     05/0000Z 22.0N 105.0W    45 KTS...INLAND
 
 
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