ZCZC MIATCDEP1 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM TROPICAL DEPRESSION JULIETTE DISCUSSION NUMBER 42 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 2 AM PDT TUE OCT 02 2001 WHILE THE CONVECTIVE TOPS OF JULIETTE ARE SO WARM THAT THE SYSTEM IS BARELY CLASSIFIABLE USING THE DVORAK TECHNIQUE...IT HAS A FAIR REFLECTIVITY PRESENTATION ON THE YUMA WSR-88D. DOPPLER VELOCITY DATA FROM YUMA HAS BEEN SHOWING OCCASIONAL 35-50 KT WINDS WELL ABOVE THE SURFACE...BUT DUE TO THE WEAK CONVECTION IT IS BELIEVED THESE WINDS ARE NOT MIXING DOWN TO THE SURFACE. THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY REMAINS 30 KT FOR THIS PACKAGE. THE MOTION REMAINS SLOW AND ERRATIC...WITH THE BEST ESTIMATE BEING A NORTHWESTWARD DRIFT. NHC HURRICANE GUIDANCE RESEMBLES SPOKES ON A WHEEL...WITH THE NHC91 TAKING THE SYSTEM EASTWARD... THE BAND SOUTHWARD AND THEN EASTWARD...THE NOGAPS SOUTHWARD...THE BAMM SOUTHWESTWARD...THE BAMS WESTWARD...AND CLIPER NORTHWARD. SINCE JULIETTE IS CURRENTLY EMBEDDED IN A DEEP-LAYER CIRCULATION THAT IS NOT FORECAST TO MOVE MUCH...THE TRACK FORECAST WILL CONTINUE TO CALL FOR SLOW MOTION AND IS A COMBINATION OF THE PREVIOUS TRACK AND THE BAMS. THE LACK OF DEEP CONVECTION AND LIMITED SEA ROOM SHOULD REDUCE THE CHANCES FOR JULIETTE TO STRENGTHEN EVEN THOUGH IT IS OVER WARM WATER. THE INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH UNTIL THE SYSTEM MOVES NEAR OR OVER NORTHERN BAJA. SHOULD THE SYSTEM SURVIVE THAT...VERY COLD PACIFIC WATER AWAITS...WHICH SHOULD CAUSE RAPID DISSIPATION. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT GIVEN THE WINDS SEEN ON THE YUMA RADAR THE POSSIBILITY OF JULIETTE REGAINING TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH...WHILE RATHER UNLIKELY...CANNOT BE ENTIRELY RULED OUT. FORECASTER BEVEN FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 02/0900Z 30.7N 113.7W 30 KTS 12HR VT 02/1800Z 30.9N 113.8W 30 KTS 24HR VT 03/0600Z 31.0N 114.6W 25 KTS 36HR VT 03/1800Z 30.7N 115.9W 25 KTS...INLAND 48HR VT 04/0600Z...DISSIPATED NNNN