ZCZC MIATCDEP1 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM TROPICAL DEPRESSION JULIETTE DISCUSSION NUMBER 38 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 8 AM PDT SUN SEP 30 2001 THE CENTER IS NOT WELL-DEFINED ON THE SATELLITE IMAGES...BUT SURFACE OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THAT IT IS SOMEWHAT TO THE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS TRACK...NEAR THE EAST COAST OF THE BAJA PENINSULA...SOUTHEAST OF SANTA ROSALIA. THERE ARE TWO MAIN CONCERNS HERE. FIRST...THE CONTINUATION OF HEAVY RAINS...WHICH ARE NOW MAINLY OVER NORTHWEST MAINLAND MEXICO. INFRARED IMAGERY SHOWS SOME COOLING OF CLOUD TOPS IN THIS AREA OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS. THE SECOND IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE CENTER WILL EMERGE OVER THE WARM WATERS OF THE SEA OF CORTEZ ...AND RE-STRENGTHEN. THE FORECAST TRACK IS SHIFTED TO THE EAST...CONSISTENT WITH THE NUMERICAL GUIDANCE...BUT NOT QUITE OVER THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA. VISIBLE PICTURES AND ADDITIONAL SURFACE DATA THIS MORNING SHOULD HELP TO CLARIFY THE SITUATION. CURRENT MOTION ESTIMATE IS SLOWLY NORTHWARD. STEERING CURRENTS ARE WEAK..AND ARE FORECAST TO REMAIN WEAK FOR THE NEXT DAY OR SO. LATER IN THE PERIOD...GLOBAL MODELS INDICATE A MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTH OF JULIETTE AND A TURN TO THE WEST. HOWEVER THE ONLY WE SEE FOR JULIETTE TO LAST MORE THAN A COUPLE OF DAYS IS FOR IT TO TAKE A SLOW AND STEADY TRACK UP THE GULF OF CALIFORNIA...WHICH SEEMS A SLIM POSSIBILITY AT THIS TIME. MOISTURE FROM JULIETTE...SEEN SPREADING NORTHWARD ON SATELLITE IMAGES...IS NOW BEING DETECTED BY U.S. WSR-88D RADAR AS PRECIPITATION ECHOES WITHIN ABOUT 50 N MI SOUTH OF THE ARIZONA/NEW MEXICO BORDER. FORECASTER PASCH/RAPPAPORT FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 30/1500Z 25.6N 112.0W 30 KTS 12HR VT 01/0000Z 26.5N 112.0W 25 KTS 24HR VT 01/1200Z 27.8N 112.8W 25 KTS...DISSIPATING 36HR VT 02/0000Z 28.8N 113.8W 20 KTS...REMNANT LOW 48HR VT 02/1200Z 29.2N 115.2W 20 KTS...REMNANT LOW 72HR VT 03/1200Z 29.0N 117.0W 20 KTS...REMNANT LOW NNNN