ZCZC MIATCDAT2 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM TROPICAL DEPRESSION SEVEN DISCUSSION NUMBER 9 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 11 PM EDT MON SEP 10 2001 LAST LIGHT VISIBLE IMAGERY DID NOT INSPIRE CONFIDENCE THAT THIS SYSTEM HAS THE CIRCULATION OF A BONA FIDE TROPICAL CYCLONE...AND NEITHER DID THE QUIKSCAT PASS VALID AT 21Z...WHICH BASICALLY SHOWED A SHARP WSW-ENE ORIENTED TROUGH AXIS. THE SYSTEM IS PRODUCING VIGOROUS CONVECTION...BUT IT IS WELL TO THE EAST OF WHATEVER CENTER THE SYSTEM MAY HAVE. THE QUIKSCAT DID SHOW A COUPLE OF NON-FLAGGED WIND VECTORS OF TROPICAL STORM FORCE...BUT I AM NOT PREPARED TO UPGRADE A SYSTEM THAT I WOULD PREFER TO DOWNGRADE. IT IS POSSIBLE...ALTHOUGH UNLIKELY...THAT YET ANOTHER CENTER COULD DEVELOP FROM THE PERSISTENT CONVECTION...IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD HAVE A TROPICAL STORM...BUT THE BEST COURSE FOR NOW IS TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO UNTIL VISIBLE IMAGERY IN THE MORNING. THE FORECAST TRACK IS BASICALLY AN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. ALL THE LARGE SCALE MODELS SIGNIFICANTLY ERODE THE MID-LEVEL RIDGE AHEAD OF THE DEPRESSION IN A DAY OR SO...AND MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON A SHARPLY RECURVING TRACK. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE...WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OF THE FSU SUPERENSEMBLE...WHICH HAS A 72 HOUR POSITION ABOUT 240 NM WEST OF THE OFFICIAL FORECAST. FORECASTER FRANKLIN FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 11/0300Z 17.5N 47.3W 30 KTS 12HR VT 11/1200Z 18.0N 48.7W 30 KTS 24HR VT 12/0000Z 19.1N 50.1W 35 KTS 36HR VT 12/1200Z 20.2N 51.0W 40 KTS 48HR VT 13/0000Z 21.5N 51.5W 45 KTS 72HR VT 14/0000Z 24.5N 51.5W 55 KTS NNNN