ZCZC MIATCDAT4 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM TROPICAL STORM CHANTAL DISCUSSION NUMBER 18 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 11 PM EDT SUN AUG 19 2001 CHANTAL REMAINS VERY POORLY ORGANIZED THIS EVENING...WITH ITS LOW-LEVEL CENTER ABOUT 100 NM TO THE WEST OF THE CLOSEST DEEP CONVECTION. FOR A TIME IT LOOKED AS THOUGH A CENTER MIGHT HAVE BEEN FORMING ON THE SOUTHWEST EDGE OF THE CONVECTION...BUT AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT FLEW THROUGH THIS LOCATION AT 700 MB AND COULD NOT DETECT ANY PRESENCE OF A CIRCULATION THERE. THEY DID REPORT FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OF 69 KT...WHICH USING TYPICAL SURFACE REDUCTION FACTORS WOULD GIVE 60 KT AT THE SURFACE. HOWEVER...A DROPSONDE RELEASED IN THE STRONGEST FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS REPORTED SURFACE WINDS OF ONLY 38 KT. AS EVIDENCED BY THIS OB AND A LONG HISTORY OF ILL-DEFINED SURFACE CENTERS...CHANTAL IS NOT EFFECTIVELY TRANSPORTING MOMENTUM TO THE SURFACE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS LOWERED A BIT FOR THIS PACKAGE. WITH THE CENTER SO REMOVED FROM THE CONVECTION...IT IS DIFFICULT TO ENVISION CHANTAL STRENGTHENING SIGNIFICANTLY BEFORE LANDFALL. THIS THINKING IS SUPPORTED BY THE 00Z RAOB FROM MERIDA...WHOSE 200 MB WIND SUGGESTS THAT SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR IS NOT ABATING AS QUICKLY AS FORECAST BY THE AVN. THE RECON FIXES CONTINUE THE EARLIER TREND OF BEING TO THE SOUTH OF THE VISIBLE LOW-LEVEL CLOUD SWIRL...SUCH THAT THE WIND CENTER LIES TO THE SOUTH OF THE LOW-LEVEL VORTICITY CENTER. IT IS THE VORTICITY CENTER THAT WE ARE TRACKING AND THE INITIAL MOTION IS 290/16. THERE IS NOT MUCH CHANGE IN THE SYNOPTIC REASONING. GLOBAL MODELS ESTABLISH A MID-LEVEL RIDGE IN THE NORTHERN GULF THAT SHOULD KEEP CHANTAL...IF IT SURVIVES...ON A BASIC WEST-NORTHWESTERLY TRACK. SHOULD CHANTAL RECOVER IN THE SOUTHERN GULF...A SLOWING OF THE FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED. FORECASTER FRANKLIN FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 20/0300Z 17.1N 83.5W 55 KTS 12HR VT 20/1200Z 17.8N 85.8W 55 KTS 24HR VT 21/0000Z 18.8N 87.8W 60 KTS...INLAND 36HR VT 21/1200Z 19.8N 89.7W 50 KTS...INLAND 48HR VT 22/0000Z 21.0N 91.5W 55 KTS 72HR VT 23/0000Z 22.0N 94.0W 65 KTS NNNN