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ZCZC MIATCDAT2 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWELVE DISCUSSION NUMBER 10 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 5 AM EDT FRI OCT 08 1999 THE CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWELVE REMAINS SPARSE...POORLY ORGANIZED AND WELL-REMOVED FROM THE CENTER. THE INITIAL INTENSITY WILL BE HELD AT 30 KT. THE MULTICHANNEL GOES-8 IMAGERY SUGGESTS THAT THE CENTER OF THE DEPRESSION IS NOT VERY WELL-DEFINED. THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 300/3. THE SYSTEM IS DRIFTING WEST-NORTHWEST AROUND THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE LOW-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST CONTINUES THIS GENERAL MOTION THROUGH 72 HRS WITH A GRADUAL INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED AFTER 36 HRS. THIS FORECAST IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH BAMS...ALTHOUGH SLIGHTLY SLOWER...AND IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. THE SYSTEM CONTINUES TO FEEL THE NEGATIVE INFLUENCE OF WESTERLY/ SOUTHWESTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR ASSOCIATED WITH THE STRONG UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH/LOW SEEN IN WATER VAPOR IMAGERY NORTH OF THE DEPRESSION. THE SHEAR HAS BEEN PERSISTENT CONTRARY TO THE FORECASTS BY THE GLOBAL MODELS. IN FACT...THE TROUGH HAS SHIFTED SOUTHWARD OVER THE LAST 24 HRS. BOTH THE AVN AND NOGAPS MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE THAT THE TROUGH WILL WEAKEN AND SHIFT EASTWARD WITHIN 24 HRS OR SO THEREBY LESSENING THE SHEAR. CURRENT SATELLITE TRENDS SUGGEST THAT THIS MAY NOT OCCUR AS QUICKLY AS FORECAST. FURTHERMORE ...THE OUTFLOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROACHING TROPICAL WAVE NEAR 33W/34W WILL LIKELY INCREASE THE SHEAR OVER THE CYCLONE. SO... UNTIL THERE ARE SIGNS OF THE SHEAR ABATING...THE SYSTEM WILL BE MAINTAINED AS A DEPRESSION THROUGH 72 HRS. DESPITE THE LARGE NATURE OF THE CIRCULATION THE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT MAY PERSIST LONG ENOUGH THAT THE SYSTEM MAY NOT RECOVER AND COULD WEAKEN OR DISSIPATE BEFORE THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...PERHAPS WITHIN 24 HRS OR SO. GUINEY FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 08/0900Z 16.6N 47.8W 30 KTS 12HR VT 08/1800Z 16.8N 48.3W 30 KTS 24HR VT 09/0600Z 17.2N 48.9W 30 KTS 36HR VT 09/1800Z 17.5N 49.5W 30 KTS 48HR VT 10/0600Z 18.0N 50.5W 30 KTS 72HR VT 11/0600Z 19.5N 53.0W 30 KTS NNNN