000 WTPZ42 KNHC 160849 TCDEP2 Hurricane Norma Discussion Number 8 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP172017 300 AM MDT Sat Sep 16 2017 Norma has a broad circulation but lacks an inner core. The deep convection has weakened a little bit and is occurring in a few cyclonically curved bands spiraling around the center. The initial intensity is kept at 65 kt in this advisory, but Dvorak numbers, both objective and subjective, are decreasing. The environment is favorable for strengthening and most of the models suggest that modest intensification will occur. The NHC forecast follows such guidance. Norma has barely moved during the past several hours, but most of the global models forecast the building of a mid-level high pressure system over the Gulf of Mexico, and this pattern should induce a slow northward motion during the next day or so. As the high builds westward, it will force Norma to move on a more north-northwesterly track, parallel to the Baja California peninsula. The confidence in the track forecast is good for the next day or two. After that time, the guidance envelope expands considerably and becomes bounded by the easternmost GFS over Baja California and the westernmost ECMWF over water. These two models are in competition once again. Given that the circulation of Norma is large and tropical storm force winds will likely reach the Baja California peninsula, the government of Mexico has issued tropical storm warnings and watches accordingly. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 16/0900Z 19.0N 110.2W 65 KT 75 MPH 12H 16/1800Z 19.7N 110.3W 70 KT 80 MPH 24H 17/0600Z 20.4N 110.4W 75 KT 85 MPH 36H 17/1800Z 21.5N 110.8W 75 KT 85 MPH 48H 18/0600Z 22.5N 111.3W 70 KT 80 MPH 72H 19/0600Z 23.5N 112.3W 60 KT 70 MPH 96H 20/0600Z 24.0N 113.0W 45 KT 50 MPH 120H 21/0600Z 24.5N 112.5W 30 KT 35 MPH $$ Forecaster Avila