000 WTPZ42 KNHC 142033 TCDEP2 Tropical Storm Norma Discussion Number 2 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP172017 300 PM MDT Thu Sep 14 2017 Norma has a broad and well-defined circulation with multiple convective bands, especially to the east and south of the center. Although the convective bands are a little broken in infrared imagery, Dvorak intensity estimates have gone up to T3.5 from TAFB and T2.5 from SAB and CIMSS at the University of Wisconsin. The initial intensity has therefore been raised to 40 kt. The cyclone continues to move slowly northward with an initial motion of 010/5 kt. As mentioned in the previous discussion, a blocking high to the north of Norma should impede its northward motion for the next 48 hours, with the forward speed staying below 5 kt. There is still no clarity on the forecast track after 48 hours, with the new 12Z ECMWF and UKMET models remaining on the western side of the guidance envelope to the west of the Baja California peninsula, while the remainder of the models generally show a track over the southern part of the peninsula then turning into northwestern Mexico. Since the tracks of the GFS and HWRF models lie close to the TVCN multi-model consensus and HCCA, the NHC official forecast continues to favor this set of models. Still, confidence in the forecast after 48 hours is quite low at this time. Since Norma already has a well-structured circulation, warm waters and low shear should lead to a fairly fast increase in intensity over the next couple of days. The updated NHC intensity forecast is a little higher than the previous one and is generally close to SHIPS and the ICON intensity consensus. An important note, however, is that HCCA is higher than the NHC forecast, and the rapid intensification indices, while not high, have increased from 6 hours ago. These trends will be watched, and it is possible that Norma could strengthen more than shown here. Weakening is likely to occur by days 4 and 5 due to land interaction with the Baja California peninsula and increasing vertical shear. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 14/2100Z 17.7N 109.3W 40 KT 45 MPH 12H 15/0600Z 18.1N 109.2W 50 KT 60 MPH 24H 15/1800Z 18.7N 109.2W 65 KT 75 MPH 36H 16/0600Z 19.2N 109.3W 75 KT 85 MPH 48H 16/1800Z 19.8N 109.5W 80 KT 90 MPH 72H 17/1800Z 21.9N 110.1W 75 KT 85 MPH 96H 18/1800Z 24.5N 110.5W 60 KT 70 MPH 120H 19/1800Z 27.0N 109.5W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND $$ Forecaster Berg