000 WTPZ42 KNHC 242043 TCDEP2 TROPICAL STORM RAYMOND DISCUSSION NUMBER 20 NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP172013 200 PM PDT THU OCT 24 2013 CLUSTERS OF THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE TO FORM NEAR THE CENTER OF RAYMOND...BUT APPARENTLY HAVE NOT RESULTED IN ANY INTENSIFICATION YET WITH A RECENT PARTIAL ASCAT PASS SHOWING MAXIMUM WINDS OF ABOUT 35 KT. THE INITIAL WIND SPEED IS KEPT AT 40 KT AS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE ASCAT AND 45-KT DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM TAFB/SAB SINCE THE ASCAT DID NOT COVER THE WHOLE CIRCULATION. SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT THE UPPER-LEVEL FLOW IS BECOMING SOUTHEASTERLY NEAR RAYMOND...WHICH SHOULD RESULT IN A LOWER-SHEAR PATTERN. MODEL GUIDANCE IS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE LAST CYCLE...WITH THE SHIPS MODEL JOINING THE GFDL IN FORECASTING RAYMOND TO BECOME A HURRICANE AGAIN. WHILE I AM NOT QUITE READY TO BELIEVE THOSE MODELS VERBATIM...I THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TREND GIVEN THE EVOLVING UPPER-LEVEL WINDS. THE NEW FORECAST IS RAISED ABOVE THE PREVIOUS ONE...BETWEEN THE INTENSITY CONSENSUS AND THE LATEST SHIPS MODEL. WEAKENING WILL PROBABLY COMMENCE BY DAY 5 DUE TO INCREASING SOUTHERLY SHEAR AND COOLING SSTS. THE ASCAT PASS HELPED TO SOLIDIFY AN INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE OF 270/9. THERE HAS BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE MODEL GUIDANCE WITH A WEST-SOUTHWESTWARD MOTION LIKELY FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS DUE TO A RIDGE SOUTH OF BAJA CALIFORNIA. AFTER THAT TIME...THE ECMWF CONTINUES TO BE ON ITS OWN IN FORECASTING A RECURVATURE OF RAYMOND EAST OF 119W AHEAD OF AN ADVANCING MID-LATITUDE TROUGH...WITH THE TROPICAL CYCLONE ENDING UP MUCH FARTHER NORTHEAST THAN ANY OTHER MODEL BY DAY 5. THE LATEST MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS HAS SHIFTED NORTHEASTWARD...BUT IS STILL WEST OF THE PREVIOUS NHC TRACK FORECAST. FOR NOW THE NEW NHC PREDICTION WILL STAY CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS ONE...AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF LATER RUNS OF THE GLOBAL MODELS SHIFT TOWARD THE ECMWF SOLUTION. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 24/2100Z 14.8N 106.8W 40 KT 45 MPH 12H 25/0600Z 14.6N 108.2W 45 KT 50 MPH 24H 25/1800Z 14.2N 110.4W 45 KT 50 MPH 36H 26/0600Z 13.7N 112.7W 50 KT 60 MPH 48H 26/1800Z 13.4N 114.9W 50 KT 60 MPH 72H 27/1800Z 13.5N 118.7W 55 KT 65 MPH 96H 28/1800Z 15.0N 120.5W 55 KT 65 MPH 120H 29/1800Z 16.5N 120.5W 45 KT 50 MPH $$ FORECASTER BLAKE