000 WTPZ41 KNHC 291444 TCDEP1 Tropical Storm Orlene Discussion Number 3 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP162022 1000 AM CDT Thu Sep 29 2022 Satellite imagery this morning shows that Orlene is getting better organized, with the formation of a small central dense overcast with an outer convective band in the northwestern semicircle. Satellite intensity estimates are 35-40 kt, so the initial intensity is increased to 40 kt. The initial motion is west-northwestward or 295/9 kt. Orlene is being steered by a mid-level ridge over Mexico, and this general motion should continue for the next day or so. After that time, the cyclone reaches the western end of the ridge. The UKMET and ECMWF, which forecast less development, take the storm more westward south of Baja California, while the GFS and the Canadian, which forecast a stronger and more vertically deep storm, forecast Orlene to turn northward into the southern Gulf of California toward northwestern Mexico. Give the current trends and the forecast intensities, the track forecast leans towards the GFS/Canadian solution and shows Orlene turning northward and moving into northwestern Mexico between days 4-5. The new forecast track is similar to the previous forecast. Orlene is forecast to be within an environment of low vertical wind shear and plenty of atmospheric moisture while over warm waters for the 72 h or so. The majority of guidance, except the aforementioned ECMWF and UKMET, indicate steady strengthening during this time, and bring Orlene to hurricane intensity by 36 h. The intensities during the first 72 h have been increased to better match the trend of the intensity guidance. After 72 h, Orlene is likely to encounter increasing shear and a drier air mass, which should cause weakening. However, the GFS, HWRF, and HMON models suggest the possibility that the cyclone will still be at hurricane strength when it reaches the coast of Mexico, and the new intensity forecast follows that scenario. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 29/1500Z 15.1N 105.9W 40 KT 45 MPH 12H 30/0000Z 15.8N 107.0W 45 KT 50 MPH 24H 30/1200Z 16.6N 108.0W 55 KT 65 MPH 36H 01/0000Z 17.4N 108.4W 65 KT 75 MPH 48H 01/1200Z 18.2N 108.5W 75 KT 85 MPH 60H 02/0000Z 19.3N 108.4W 80 KT 90 MPH 72H 02/1200Z 20.5N 108.1W 85 KT 100 MPH 96H 03/1200Z 22.9N 107.6W 65 KT 75 MPH 120H 04/1200Z 26.0N 107.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND $$ Forecaster Beven