ZCZC MIATCDAT1 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM ...FOR INTERGOVERNMENTAL USE ONLY... TROPICAL STORM FLORENCE DISCUSSION NUMBER 4 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 10 AM EST FRI NOV 04 1994 INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 320/07. THERE IS LITTLE CHANGE IN THE GUIDANCE MODELS FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY PACKAGE. WITH THE STORM FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE PREVIOUS TRACK...THE FORECAST IS ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED. WE HAVE NOT TALKED SERIOUSLY ABOUT RECURVATURE SINCE THE DYNAMIC MODELS ARE UNANIMOUS IN A TURN TO A MORE WESTERLY TRACK... HOWEVER...THE EUROPEAN AND UKMET MODELS BOTH SHOW A VORTEX BEING CAUGHT UP IN THE WESTERLIES. THE PROBLEM IS THAT FLORENCE IS NOT A TRUE TROPICAL SYSTEM YET...ALTHOUGH THE TRANSFORMATION SEEMS TO BE PROGRESSING. THIS BEING THE CASE...IT PROBABLY IS NOT BEING CORRECTLY INITIALIZED. INTENSITY-WISE WE ARE HOLDING STEADY. WITH THE EXPECTATION OF FLORENCE BECOMING MORE TROPICAL...AND THE EXPECTATION OF SOME RIDGING UPSTREAM...MODEST INTENSIFICATION IS LIKELY. OFFICIAL FORECAST GOES TO 50 KNOTS WHICH IS SIMILAR TO SHIFOR MODEL. JARRELL FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 04/1500Z 27.8N 53.7W 35 KTS 12HR VT 05/0000Z 28.6N 54.4W 35 KTS 24HR VT 05/1200Z 29.5N 55.5W 40 KTS 36HR VT 06/0000Z 30.1N 56.8W 45 KTS 48HR VT 06/1200Z 30.5N 58.5W 50 KTS 72HR VT 07/1200Z 31.0N 61.5W 50 KTS NNNN