ZCZC MIATCDEP2 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM Tropical Storm Norma Discussion Number 6 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP172017 300 PM MDT Fri Sep 15 2017 Norma's primary convective band continues to elongate and curls about one and a half times around the circulation. Objective and subjective Dvorak estimates are wide ranging, going from 50 kt up to 77 kt, but since the deep convective cloud tops are not very cold, the initial intensity is raised conservatively to 60 kt. This lower intensity is supported by recent ASCAT data, which only showed maximum winds of 50 kt. The environment appears conducive for continued gradual strengthening. Norma's large size argues against rapid intensification, but the cyclone should be able to at least steadily strengthen during the next 36 hours or so. Vertical shear begins to increase after that time, however, and Norma is likely to weaken beginning in about 48 hours. The HCCA guidance and the ICON intensity consensus were notably lower on this cycle, and the updated NHC forecast has begun to follow that trend, especially on days 3 through 5. The center has wobbled northwestward during the day, and the initial motion estimate is 325/2 kt. Norma should turn slowly northward during the next day or so, steered along the western periphery of the subtropical ridge. The track models continue to play the same tune, with the ECMWF and UKMET models on the far western side of the guidance envelope and the HWRF and GFS on the eastern side. Since the overall trend in the guidance has been westward, the new NHC track forecast leans left of the consensus aids and is a little left of the previous forecast. The 48-hour forecast track and wind radii are very close to the southern tip of the Baja California peninsula. However, with the persistent westward shifts in the guidance, a tropical storm watch does not appear to be needed at this time. We will assess future model trends for the possibility of a watch issuance later tonight or tomorrow. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 15/2100Z 18.9N 110.1W 60 KT 70 MPH 12H 16/0600Z 19.2N 110.3W 65 KT 75 MPH 24H 16/1800Z 19.6N 110.4W 70 KT 80 MPH 36H 17/0600Z 20.6N 110.6W 75 KT 85 MPH 48H 17/1800Z 21.6N 111.0W 70 KT 80 MPH 72H 18/1800Z 23.5N 112.1W 60 KT 70 MPH 96H 19/1800Z 25.0N 112.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND 120H 20/1800Z 26.0N 111.0W 30 KT 35 MPH...OVER WATER $$ Forecaster Berg NNNN
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